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  <title>Episode 26: Getting over resistance to change</title>
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  <itunes:title>Getting over resistance to change</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Matt Curry is back! In this episode recorded at OSCON 2017, we discuss the problems with getting people to change, from staff to management, private sector and government.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>57:49</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Matt Curry is back! In this episode recorded at OSCON 2017, we discuss the problems with getting people to change, from staff to management, private sector and government. &lt;/p&gt;
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  <title>Episode 16: Pair programing doesn't stink</title>
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  <itunes:title>Pair programing doesn't stink</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Somewhere around just 20% of people do pair programming. It seems to be an incredibly effective technique, according to people who follow it. I go over some of those reasons and micro case studies of organizations having success with pair programming. It seems like the right thing to do.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>7:08</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Somewhere around just 20% of people do pair programming. It seems to be an incredibly effective technique, according to people who follow it. I go over some of those reasons and micro case studies of organizations having success with pair programming. It seems like the right thing to do. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Somewhere around just 20% of people do pair programming. It seems to be an incredibly effective technique, according to people who follow it. I go over some of those reasons and micro case studies of organizations having success with pair programming. It seems like the right thing to do.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title=" My Pairing column from October at The Register" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/18/pairing_programming_youll_never_guess_what_happens_next/"> My Pairing column from October at The Register</a> &mdash; The comments section is especially good for common sentiment about pair programming.</li><li><a title="Charles Lowell" rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/cowboyd">Charles Lowell</a> &mdash; We used to do a podcast.</li><li><a title="Gartner survey on pair programming adoption" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.slideshare.net/cote/better-ways-of-doing-software/19">Gartner survey on pair programming adoption</a> &mdash; I got the number wrong: it's actually around 20%, not just 10%.</li><li><a title=" Mark Ardito goes over HCSC’s astonishing success with pair programming" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGNlSCquZIc&amp;t=11m05s"> Mark Ardito goes over HCSC’s astonishing success with pair programming</a> &mdash; They thought it'd take 12-15 weeks to get their MVP done, but it actually took 5.5 to 6 weeks we finish.</li><li><a title="Selecting people for pair programming and their enthusiastic response" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGNlSCquZIc&amp;t=26m35s">Selecting people for pair programming and their enthusiastic response</a> &mdash; More from Mark Ardito on HCSC's adoption of pair programming.</li><li><a title=" Phil Horowitz talks about how exhausting pairing is at first" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.informationweek.com/devops/project-management/adventures-in-pair-programming/a/d-id/1325577"> Phil Horowitz talks about how exhausting pairing is at first</a> &mdash; At Perforce: "This makes pair programming intense, especially at the beginning. At the end of the first day, I couldn't go home. Before I could face humans again, I put my phone on airplane mode, ignored my usual online accounts, and went to the gym for two hours of self-imposed isolation."</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Somewhere around just 20% of people do pair programming. It seems to be an incredibly effective technique, according to people who follow it. I go over some of those reasons and micro case studies of organizations having success with pair programming. It seems like the right thing to do.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title=" My Pairing column from October at The Register" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/18/pairing_programming_youll_never_guess_what_happens_next/"> My Pairing column from October at The Register</a> &mdash; The comments section is especially good for common sentiment about pair programming.</li><li><a title="Charles Lowell" rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/cowboyd">Charles Lowell</a> &mdash; We used to do a podcast.</li><li><a title="Gartner survey on pair programming adoption" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.slideshare.net/cote/better-ways-of-doing-software/19">Gartner survey on pair programming adoption</a> &mdash; I got the number wrong: it's actually around 20%, not just 10%.</li><li><a title=" Mark Ardito goes over HCSC’s astonishing success with pair programming" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGNlSCquZIc&amp;t=11m05s"> Mark Ardito goes over HCSC’s astonishing success with pair programming</a> &mdash; They thought it'd take 12-15 weeks to get their MVP done, but it actually took 5.5 to 6 weeks we finish.</li><li><a title="Selecting people for pair programming and their enthusiastic response" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGNlSCquZIc&amp;t=26m35s">Selecting people for pair programming and their enthusiastic response</a> &mdash; More from Mark Ardito on HCSC's adoption of pair programming.</li><li><a title=" Phil Horowitz talks about how exhausting pairing is at first" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.informationweek.com/devops/project-management/adventures-in-pair-programming/a/d-id/1325577"> Phil Horowitz talks about how exhausting pairing is at first</a> &mdash; At Perforce: "This makes pair programming intense, especially at the beginning. At the end of the first day, I couldn't go home. Before I could face humans again, I put my phone on airplane mode, ignored my usual online accounts, and went to the gym for two hours of self-imposed isolation."</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 14: Building a cloud in 30 minutes, metrics are a distraction</title>
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  <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Building a cloud in 30 minutes, metrics are a distraction</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Software Defined Talk</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Managing multiple CI/CD pipelines, and random digital transformation at Allstate.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>49:20</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;"I get to see your face during this podcast," Matt says as we start talking about SpringOne Platform. Both of us were there and we recap Matt's talk on managing 10 Pivotal Cloud Foundry instances, namely, how they figured out using a Concourse pipeline to automate much of that management. We discuss "how to do the transformation" talks we liked, like &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/status/760526379590950912" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;the Citi talk&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In addition to some other random digital transformation topics, we also discuss how HR policies are struggling to change with things like pair programming and DevOps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Subscribe: &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iTunes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RSS Feed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Show-notes and Links

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Curry: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@mattjcurry&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coté: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cote&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cote.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cote.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 643 &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;I get to see your face during this podcast,&quot; Matt says as we start talking about SpringOne Platform. Both of us were there and we recap Matt&#39;s talk on managing 10 Pivotal Cloud Foundry instances, namely, how they figured out using a Concourse pipeline to automate much of that management. We discuss &quot;how to do the transformation&quot; talks we liked, like <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/status/760526379590950912" rel="nofollow">the Citi talk</a>. </p>

<p>In addition to some other random digital transformation topics, we also discuss how HR policies are struggling to change with things like pair programming and DevOps.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show-notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 643</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;I get to see your face during this podcast,&quot; Matt says as we start talking about SpringOne Platform. Both of us were there and we recap Matt&#39;s talk on managing 10 Pivotal Cloud Foundry instances, namely, how they figured out using a Concourse pipeline to automate much of that management. We discuss &quot;how to do the transformation&quot; talks we liked, like <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/status/760526379590950912" rel="nofollow">the Citi talk</a>. </p>

<p>In addition to some other random digital transformation topics, we also discuss how HR policies are struggling to change with things like pair programming and DevOps.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show-notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
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<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 643</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 12: Introducing cloud at Express Scripts, with Brian Gregory</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 02:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
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  <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Introducing cloud at Express Scripts, with Brian Gregory</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Launching the cloud native strategy at Express Scripts International.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>47:49</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Introducing cloud in a large enterprise can be challenging, and the technology is usually the least of your worries. Matt and I talk with Brian Gregory of Express Scripts who's been working on transforming Express Scripts to a more cloud native approach to IT and tell us some the history and some of the tactics that he and team have been working through.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Subscribe: &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iTunes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RSS Feed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Show Notes and Links

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt's CF Summit talk, &lt;a href="https://cfsummit2016.sched.org/event/6aKz/building-a-brand-around-a-technology-and-cultural-transformation-matthew-curry-allstate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"Building a Brand Around a Technology and Cultural Transformation"&lt;/a&gt;. If you want to go, use the code CF16COTE to get 20% off &lt;a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/community/summits/attend/?summitId=10016" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;CF Summit registration&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Brian Gregory with Express Scripts - check out &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/MrBrianGregory" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Brian in Twitter (@MrBrianGregory)&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgregory" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Scripts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Express Scripts&lt;/a&gt; - 30,000+ employees, $100bn in revenue, 20th largest company in the US, &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Starting with a large, mature IT portfolio including lots of assets from M&amp;amp;A.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Winning over the various stakeholders and groups, including developers and enterprise architecture council.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Working with legacy services.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Curry: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@mattjcurry&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coté: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cote&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cote.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cote.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;See &lt;a href="https://cote.io/promos/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;my promos and discount page for conference discount codes and other stuff&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 529. Special Guest: Brian Gregory.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Introducing cloud in a large enterprise can be challenging, and the technology is usually the least of your worries. Matt and I talk with Brian Gregory of Express Scripts who&#39;s been working on transforming Express Scripts to a more cloud native approach to IT and tell us some the history and some of the tactics that he and team have been working through.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show Notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>Matt&#39;s CF Summit talk, <a href="https://cfsummit2016.sched.org/event/6aKz/building-a-brand-around-a-technology-and-cultural-transformation-matthew-curry-allstate" rel="nofollow">&quot;Building a Brand Around a Technology and Cultural Transformation&quot;</a>. If you want to go, use the code CF16COTE to get 20% off <a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/community/summits/attend/?summitId=10016" rel="nofollow">CF Summit registration</a>. </li>
<li>Brian Gregory with Express Scripts - check out <a href="https://twitter.com/MrBrianGregory" rel="nofollow">Brian in Twitter (@MrBrianGregory)</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgregory" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Scripts" rel="nofollow">Express Scripts</a> - 30,000+ employees, $100bn in revenue, 20th largest company in the US, </li>
<li>Starting with a large, mature IT portfolio including lots of assets from M&amp;A.</li>
<li>Winning over the various stakeholders and groups, including developers and enterprise architecture council.</li>
<li>Working with legacy services.</li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
<li>See <a href="https://cote.io/promos/" rel="nofollow">my promos and discount page for conference discount codes and other stuff</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 529.</p><p>Special Guest: Brian Gregory.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Introducing cloud in a large enterprise can be challenging, and the technology is usually the least of your worries. Matt and I talk with Brian Gregory of Express Scripts who&#39;s been working on transforming Express Scripts to a more cloud native approach to IT and tell us some the history and some of the tactics that he and team have been working through.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show Notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>Matt&#39;s CF Summit talk, <a href="https://cfsummit2016.sched.org/event/6aKz/building-a-brand-around-a-technology-and-cultural-transformation-matthew-curry-allstate" rel="nofollow">&quot;Building a Brand Around a Technology and Cultural Transformation&quot;</a>. If you want to go, use the code CF16COTE to get 20% off <a href="https://www.cloudfoundry.org/community/summits/attend/?summitId=10016" rel="nofollow">CF Summit registration</a>. </li>
<li>Brian Gregory with Express Scripts - check out <a href="https://twitter.com/MrBrianGregory" rel="nofollow">Brian in Twitter (@MrBrianGregory)</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgregory" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_Scripts" rel="nofollow">Express Scripts</a> - 30,000+ employees, $100bn in revenue, 20th largest company in the US, </li>
<li>Starting with a large, mature IT portfolio including lots of assets from M&amp;A.</li>
<li>Winning over the various stakeholders and groups, including developers and enterprise architecture council.</li>
<li>Working with legacy services.</li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
<li>See <a href="https://cote.io/promos/" rel="nofollow">my promos and discount page for conference discount codes and other stuff</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 529.</p><p>Special Guest: Brian Gregory.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 11: How do we do things we would never, ordinarily do?</title>
  <link>https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/11</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2016 01:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
  <author>Software Defined Talk</author>
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  <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>How do we do things we would never, ordinarily do?</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Software Defined Talk</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Lessons learned from almost a year of helping transform IT at Allstate.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>52:24</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Summary

&lt;p&gt;Matt and I talk about lessons learned from almost a year of helping transform IT at Allstate. When it comes to scaling up agile and cloud-think the real challenges are in functions other than development, like budgeting, planning, training, hiring, and how the overall IT department is organized. We discuss those topics - esp. budgeting! - and also how to set one's personal expectations about going on the transformation journey. Then we discuss an upcoming column on mine in The Register on the benefits of small batches thinking.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Subscribe: &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iTunes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RSS Feed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Show Notes and Links

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;After a year, the question becomes "can it scale?"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How do we do: Budgeting, training, hiring, how do we organize teams&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;We only plan with good information, not bad information.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;You need to establish an overall vision, but avoid being too specific on tactics. For example, with a claim application, we know the general product, the vertical, the line of business we have roughly an idea of what claims are, who the customer is, and what that experience is like. Delivering a better experience for claims, what that feels like, and how do we measure it - these things we don't know perfectly up-front, so we have lots of discipline around iterating and experimenting to deliver good product.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How budgeting changes in this small batches approach.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;With a lot of this, you can't talk someone into doing these things up-front. They have to experience it first hand: you have to walk them through it.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"Sometimes 'nothing' is a big win."&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/Author/2805/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Coté's DevOps columns at The Register&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Not mentioned, but good thinking to be had in &lt;a href="http://www.craiglarman.com/wiki/index.php?title=Larman%27s_Laws_of_Organizational_Behavior" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Larman's Law&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Curry: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@mattjcurry&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coté: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cote&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cote.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cote.io&lt;/a&gt;s of small batches thinking. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 477. &lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h1>Summary</h1>

<p>Matt and I talk about lessons learned from almost a year of helping transform IT at Allstate. When it comes to scaling up agile and cloud-think the real challenges are in functions other than development, like budgeting, planning, training, hiring, and how the overall IT department is organized. We discuss those topics - esp. budgeting! - and also how to set one&#39;s personal expectations about going on the transformation journey. Then we discuss an upcoming column on mine in The Register on the benefits of small batches thinking.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show Notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>After a year, the question becomes &quot;can it scale?&quot;</li>
<li>How do we do: Budgeting, training, hiring, how do we organize teams</li>
<li>We only plan with good information, not bad information.</li>
<li>You need to establish an overall vision, but avoid being too specific on tactics. For example, with a claim application, we know the general product, the vertical, the line of business we have roughly an idea of what claims are, who the customer is, and what that experience is like. Delivering a better experience for claims, what that feels like, and how do we measure it - these things we don&#39;t know perfectly up-front, so we have lots of discipline around iterating and experimenting to deliver good product.</li>
<li>How budgeting changes in this small batches approach.</li>
<li>With a lot of this, you can&#39;t talk someone into doing these things up-front. They have to experience it first hand: you have to walk them through it.</li>
<li>&quot;Sometimes &#39;nothing&#39; is a big win.&quot;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/Author/2805/" rel="nofollow">Cot&eacute;&#39;s DevOps columns at The Register</a>.</li>
<li>Not mentioned, but good thinking to be had in <a href="http://www.craiglarman.com/wiki/index.php?title=Larman%27s_Laws_of_Organizational_Behavior" rel="nofollow">Larman&#39;s Law</a></li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a>s of small batches thinking. </li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 477.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h1>Summary</h1>

<p>Matt and I talk about lessons learned from almost a year of helping transform IT at Allstate. When it comes to scaling up agile and cloud-think the real challenges are in functions other than development, like budgeting, planning, training, hiring, and how the overall IT department is organized. We discuss those topics - esp. budgeting! - and also how to set one&#39;s personal expectations about going on the transformation journey. Then we discuss an upcoming column on mine in The Register on the benefits of small batches thinking.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show Notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>After a year, the question becomes &quot;can it scale?&quot;</li>
<li>How do we do: Budgeting, training, hiring, how do we organize teams</li>
<li>We only plan with good information, not bad information.</li>
<li>You need to establish an overall vision, but avoid being too specific on tactics. For example, with a claim application, we know the general product, the vertical, the line of business we have roughly an idea of what claims are, who the customer is, and what that experience is like. Delivering a better experience for claims, what that feels like, and how do we measure it - these things we don&#39;t know perfectly up-front, so we have lots of discipline around iterating and experimenting to deliver good product.</li>
<li>How budgeting changes in this small batches approach.</li>
<li>With a lot of this, you can&#39;t talk someone into doing these things up-front. They have to experience it first hand: you have to walk them through it.</li>
<li>&quot;Sometimes &#39;nothing&#39; is a big win.&quot;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/Author/2805/" rel="nofollow">Cot&eacute;&#39;s DevOps columns at The Register</a>.</li>
<li>Not mentioned, but good thinking to be had in <a href="http://www.craiglarman.com/wiki/index.php?title=Larman%27s_Laws_of_Organizational_Behavior" rel="nofollow">Larman&#39;s Law</a></li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a>s of small batches thinking. </li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 477.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 10: Doing the DevOps at National Instruments and BazaarVoice, talking with Ernest Mueller </title>
  <link>https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/10</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2015 01:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
  <author>Software Defined Talk</author>
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  <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Doing the DevOps at National Instruments and BazaarVoice, talking with Ernest Mueller </itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Software Defined Talk</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Ernest Mueller has worked helped introduce DevOps in several organizations and has been talking about those stories at two companies he’s worked for, National Instruments and BazaarVoice. Matt and Coté hear these stories (mostly at National Instruments) and we discuss how Ernest and others helped transform these companies to the new way. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>47:46</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Ernest Mueller has worked helped introduce DevOps in several organizations and has been talking about those stories at two companies he's worked for, National Instruments and BazaarVoice. Matt and Coté hear these stories (mostly at National Instruments) and we discuss how Ernest and others helped transform these companies to the new way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/cote/LordOfComputing010.mp3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Download directly&lt;/a&gt;, listen above, or subscribe to the feed: &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iTunes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RSS Feed&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

Show-notes and Links

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;If we automate, we'll loose our close touch of the systems.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Being on call, globally, back when there were actual pagers.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Persuading people to change with tyranny, demo's, trust, and any other tactics you can get your introverted mind around.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Recording Ernest's talk on all this, from DOES 2015: &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ry40h1UAyE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;DevOps Transformations At National Instruments and Bazaarvoice (And Infosec!)&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;From DevOpsDays Austin 2012, &lt;a href="https://vimeo.com/62931927" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;here's a panel discussion of DevOps at NI&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Slides for &lt;a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mxyzplk/devops-transformations" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;DevOps Transformations at National Instruments and BazaarVoice&lt;/a&gt;, his presentation on DevOps at NI and BazaarVoice.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mxyzplk/devops-state-of-the-union-2015" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;One of the most comprehensive presentation on DevOps&lt;/a&gt; from Ernest and the other DevOps Austin crew.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ernest Mueller: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ernestmueller" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@ernestmueller&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://theagileadmin.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Agile Admin&lt;/a&gt; blog.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Curry: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@mattjcurry&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coté: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cote&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cote.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cote.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 655. Special Guest: Ernest Mueller.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Ernest Mueller has worked helped introduce DevOps in several organizations and has been talking about those stories at two companies he&#39;s worked for, National Instruments and BazaarVoice. Matt and Coté hear these stories (mostly at National Instruments) and we discuss how Ernest and others helped transform these companies to the new way.</p>

<p><a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/cote/LordOfComputing010.mp3" rel="nofollow">Download directly</a>, listen above, or subscribe to the feed: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a>.</p>

<h1>Show-notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>If we automate, we&#39;ll loose our close touch of the systems.</li>
<li>Being on call, globally, back when there were actual pagers.</li>
<li>Persuading people to change with tyranny, demo&#39;s, trust, and any other tactics you can get your introverted mind around.</li>
<li>Recording Ernest&#39;s talk on all this, from DOES 2015: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ry40h1UAyE" rel="nofollow">DevOps Transformations At National Instruments and Bazaarvoice (And Infosec!)</a></li>
<li>From DevOpsDays Austin 2012, <a href="https://vimeo.com/62931927" rel="nofollow">here&#39;s a panel discussion of DevOps at NI</a>.</li>
<li>Slides for <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mxyzplk/devops-transformations" rel="nofollow">DevOps Transformations at National Instruments and BazaarVoice</a>, his presentation on DevOps at NI and BazaarVoice.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mxyzplk/devops-state-of-the-union-2015" rel="nofollow">One of the most comprehensive presentation on DevOps</a> from Ernest and the other DevOps Austin crew.</li>
<li>Ernest Mueller: <a href="https://twitter.com/ernestmueller" rel="nofollow">@ernestmueller</a>, <a href="http://theagileadmin.com/" rel="nofollow">The Agile Admin</a> blog.</li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 655.</p><p>Special Guest: Ernest Mueller.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Ernest Mueller has worked helped introduce DevOps in several organizations and has been talking about those stories at two companies he&#39;s worked for, National Instruments and BazaarVoice. Matt and Coté hear these stories (mostly at National Instruments) and we discuss how Ernest and others helped transform these companies to the new way.</p>

<p><a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/cote/LordOfComputing010.mp3" rel="nofollow">Download directly</a>, listen above, or subscribe to the feed: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a>.</p>

<h1>Show-notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>If we automate, we&#39;ll loose our close touch of the systems.</li>
<li>Being on call, globally, back when there were actual pagers.</li>
<li>Persuading people to change with tyranny, demo&#39;s, trust, and any other tactics you can get your introverted mind around.</li>
<li>Recording Ernest&#39;s talk on all this, from DOES 2015: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ry40h1UAyE" rel="nofollow">DevOps Transformations At National Instruments and Bazaarvoice (And Infosec!)</a></li>
<li>From DevOpsDays Austin 2012, <a href="https://vimeo.com/62931927" rel="nofollow">here&#39;s a panel discussion of DevOps at NI</a>.</li>
<li>Slides for <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mxyzplk/devops-transformations" rel="nofollow">DevOps Transformations at National Instruments and BazaarVoice</a>, his presentation on DevOps at NI and BazaarVoice.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mxyzplk/devops-state-of-the-union-2015" rel="nofollow">One of the most comprehensive presentation on DevOps</a> from Ernest and the other DevOps Austin crew.</li>
<li>Ernest Mueller: <a href="https://twitter.com/ernestmueller" rel="nofollow">@ernestmueller</a>, <a href="http://theagileadmin.com/" rel="nofollow">The Agile Admin</a> blog.</li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 655.</p><p>Special Guest: Ernest Mueller.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 9: The life of microservices in the F500</title>
  <link>https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/9</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2015 07:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
  <author>Software Defined Talk</author>
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  <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>The life of microservices in the F500</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Software Defined Talk</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Introducing microservices into large organizations.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>35:04</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Summary

&lt;p&gt;You don't hear too many stories about microservices in "normal" companies. In this episode, I talk with Nate Foreman about microservices-driven work he's been doing with a large enterprise recently. We discuss the goods and the bads of this approach and, overall, how it's working out. It's a good discussion of how all the usual "cloud native" concept actually play out in the real world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(As you can guess, it's not actually an "action figure" company, we just used that example to mask the actual company.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Subscribe: &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iTunes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;RSS Feed&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Show Notes and Links

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.devopsdays.org/events/2015-detroit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;DevOpsDays Detroit&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-foreman-87660661" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nate in LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coté: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cote&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cote.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cote.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 529. &lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h1>Summary</h1>

<p>You don&#39;t hear too many stories about microservices in &quot;normal&quot; companies. In this episode, I talk with Nate Foreman about microservices-driven work he&#39;s been doing with a large enterprise recently. We discuss the goods and the bads of this approach and, overall, how it&#39;s working out. It&#39;s a good discussion of how all the usual &quot;cloud native&quot; concept actually play out in the real world.</p>

<p>(As you can guess, it&#39;s not actually an &quot;action figure&quot; company, we just used that example to mask the actual company.)</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show Notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.devopsdays.org/events/2015-detroit/" rel="nofollow">DevOpsDays Detroit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-foreman-87660661" rel="nofollow">Nate in LinkedIn</a>.</li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 529.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h1>Summary</h1>

<p>You don&#39;t hear too many stories about microservices in &quot;normal&quot; companies. In this episode, I talk with Nate Foreman about microservices-driven work he&#39;s been doing with a large enterprise recently. We discuss the goods and the bads of this approach and, overall, how it&#39;s working out. It&#39;s a good discussion of how all the usual &quot;cloud native&quot; concept actually play out in the real world.</p>

<p>(As you can guess, it&#39;s not actually an &quot;action figure&quot; company, we just used that example to mask the actual company.)</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show Notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.devopsdays.org/events/2015-detroit/" rel="nofollow">DevOpsDays Detroit</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-foreman-87660661" rel="nofollow">Nate in LinkedIn</a>.</li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 529.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 8: Transforming how the US government does software, Diego Lapiduz</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 02:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
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  <itunes:title>Transforming how the US government does software, Diego Lapiduz</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Matt and Coté talk with Diego Lapiduz who works in the GSA’s 18F organization helping government agencies develop their software in new, more agile and cloud-driven ways.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>47:02</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Summary

&lt;p&gt;What organization could be larger than the US Federal government? Not only that, the chance to transform how software is done in the government has perhaps one of the largest possible impacts of transforming any "IT department." In this episode, Matt and Coté talk with Diego Lapiduz who works in the GSA's 18F organization helping government agencies develop their software in new, more agile and cloud-driven ways. We discuss the background of 18F and the broader government initiatives to transform how software is done and also walk through some of the learnings 18F has had in trying to make such a huge transformation.&lt;/p&gt;

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Show-notes and Links

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Hiring is the biggest problem around government processes.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;To build empathy and different teams working together, try to tackle a common goal.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Building credibly by demonstrating that your method works.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Ugly Baby Problem - winning over people who think they're already doing it right.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Measuring success.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;18F in &lt;a href="https://github.com/18F" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;github. github.com/18F&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://18f.gsa.gov/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;18f.gsa.gov&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Examples of project: &lt;a href="https://www.notalone.gov/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;NotAlone.gov&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The College Score Card&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Explaining &lt;a href="http://cote.io/blog/fail-fast-recording" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;"failing fast"&lt;/a&gt; in government. People start to understand it as they have more experience.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;How open source is helpful here, how non-government folks get involved and contribute to the open source projects.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=598c1pB39Ms" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Diego's recent talk&lt;/a&gt; at the Cloud Foundry Summit 2014.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;As more background on IT change in the government, check out &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6nMQg9qs7k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;this overview from Mikey Dickerson at OSCON 2015&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Diego Lapiduz: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/dlapiduz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@dlapiduz&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Matt Curry: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@mattjcurry&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Coté: &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@cote&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://cote.io" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;cote.io&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 458. &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<h1>Summary</h1>

<p>What organization could be larger than the US Federal government? Not only that, the chance to transform how software is done in the government has perhaps one of the largest possible impacts of transforming any &quot;IT department.&quot; In this episode, Matt and Cot&eacute; talk with Diego Lapiduz who works in the GSA&#39;s 18F organization helping government agencies develop their software in new, more agile and cloud-driven ways. We discuss the background of 18F and the broader government initiatives to transform how software is done and also walk through some of the learnings 18F has had in trying to make such a huge transformation.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show-notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>Hiring is the biggest problem around government processes.</li>
<li>To build empathy and different teams working together, try to tackle a common goal.</li>
<li>Building credibly by demonstrating that your method works.</li>
<li>The Ugly Baby Problem - winning over people who think they&#39;re already doing it right.</li>
<li>Measuring success.</li>
<li>18F in <a href="https://github.com/18F" rel="nofollow">github. github.com/18F</a> and <a href="https://18f.gsa.gov/" rel="nofollow">18f.gsa.gov</a>.</li>
<li>Examples of project: <a href="https://www.notalone.gov/" rel="nofollow">NotAlone.gov</a>, <a href="https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/" rel="nofollow">The College Score Card</a>.</li>
<li>Explaining <a href="http://cote.io/blog/fail-fast-recording" rel="nofollow">&quot;failing fast&quot;</a> in government. People start to understand it as they have more experience.</li>
<li>How open source is helpful here, how non-government folks get involved and contribute to the open source projects.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=598c1pB39Ms" rel="nofollow">Diego&#39;s recent talk</a> at the Cloud Foundry Summit 2014.</li>
<li>As more background on IT change in the government, check out <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6nMQg9qs7k" rel="nofollow">this overview from Mikey Dickerson at OSCON 2015</a>.</li>
<li>Diego Lapiduz: <a href="https://twitter.com/dlapiduz" rel="nofollow">@dlapiduz</a></li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
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<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 458.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<h1>Summary</h1>

<p>What organization could be larger than the US Federal government? Not only that, the chance to transform how software is done in the government has perhaps one of the largest possible impacts of transforming any &quot;IT department.&quot; In this episode, Matt and Cot&eacute; talk with Diego Lapiduz who works in the GSA&#39;s 18F organization helping government agencies develop their software in new, more agile and cloud-driven ways. We discuss the background of 18F and the broader government initiatives to transform how software is done and also walk through some of the learnings 18F has had in trying to make such a huge transformation.</p>

<p>Subscribe: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/lord-of-computing-podcast/id983773453" rel="nofollow">iTunes</a>, <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/LordsOfComputing" rel="nofollow">RSS Feed</a></p>

<h1>Show-notes and Links</h1>

<ul>
<li>Hiring is the biggest problem around government processes.</li>
<li>To build empathy and different teams working together, try to tackle a common goal.</li>
<li>Building credibly by demonstrating that your method works.</li>
<li>The Ugly Baby Problem - winning over people who think they&#39;re already doing it right.</li>
<li>Measuring success.</li>
<li>18F in <a href="https://github.com/18F" rel="nofollow">github. github.com/18F</a> and <a href="https://18f.gsa.gov/" rel="nofollow">18f.gsa.gov</a>.</li>
<li>Examples of project: <a href="https://www.notalone.gov/" rel="nofollow">NotAlone.gov</a>, <a href="https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/" rel="nofollow">The College Score Card</a>.</li>
<li>Explaining <a href="http://cote.io/blog/fail-fast-recording" rel="nofollow">&quot;failing fast&quot;</a> in government. People start to understand it as they have more experience.</li>
<li>How open source is helpful here, how non-government folks get involved and contribute to the open source projects.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=598c1pB39Ms" rel="nofollow">Diego&#39;s recent talk</a> at the Cloud Foundry Summit 2014.</li>
<li>As more background on IT change in the government, check out <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6nMQg9qs7k" rel="nofollow">this overview from Mikey Dickerson at OSCON 2015</a>.</li>
<li>Diego Lapiduz: <a href="https://twitter.com/dlapiduz" rel="nofollow">@dlapiduz</a></li>
<li>Matt Curry: <a href="https://twitter.com/mattjcurry/" rel="nofollow">@mattjcurry</a></li>
<li>Cot&eacute;: <a href="https://twitter.com/cote/" rel="nofollow">@cote</a>, <a href="http://cote.io" rel="nofollow">cote.io</a></li>
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<p>Libsyn downloads as of 20160912: 458.</p>]]>
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