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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Lin Sun is Head of Open Source at Solo.io, a recent KubeCon + CloudNativeCon program co-chair, and an emeritus member of the CNCF Technical Oversight Committee. Whitney and Coté start with the keynote she gave in Amsterdam, where she flew a drone over 13,000 people so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged the audience was - it broke twice on stage, and Whitney, who was in the room, remembers nothing else from that day. Lin’s account of why it worked anyway is a checklist: a wow factor, something the audience does every day so they can relate to it, real engagement, and a planted surprise. From there they get into the part of co-chairing nobody sees, where three thousand submissions become about two hundred talks, how the AI-written ones get spotted, and why the CNCF cannot simply run a detector over the pile. The rest is open source as a job - twenty years of it, Istio at IBM through to Solo, and a straight answer to the question her own reports keep asking her, which is whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can watch t&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/VFCzTdXoDR0" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;he video version of this episode as well&lt;/a&gt;, if you prefer that kind of thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mentions:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lin-sun-a9b7a81/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lin Sun on LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;, where she says she is most active.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://solo.io/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Solo.io&lt;/a&gt; - the book “AI Agents on Kubernetes” is a free download from the homepage, and is being refreshed for Salt Lake City.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://aaif.io/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Agentic AI Foundation&lt;/a&gt; and its five projects: Model Context Protocol, goose, AGENTS.md, agentgateway, and the agent-to-agent protocol.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://github.com/agent-substrate/substrate" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Agent Substrate&lt;/a&gt;, the Google project that rethinks how agents get scheduled.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guest: Lin Sun.&lt;br&gt;
Header photo &lt;a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/143247548@N03/55169871701/in/album-72177720332674037" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;from the CNCF&lt;/a&gt;. Special Guest: Lin Sun.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Lin Sun is Head of Open Source at Solo.io, a recent KubeCon + CloudNativeCon program co-chair, and an emeritus member of the CNCF Technical Oversight Committee. Whitney and Coté start with the keynote she gave in Amsterdam, where she flew a drone over 13,000 people so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged the audience was - it broke twice on stage, and Whitney, who was in the room, remembers nothing else from that day. Lin’s account of why it worked anyway is a checklist: a wow factor, something the audience does every day so they can relate to it, real engagement, and a planted surprise. From there they get into the part of co-chairing nobody sees, where three thousand submissions become about two hundred talks, how the AI-written ones get spotted, and why the CNCF cannot simply run a detector over the pile. The rest is open source as a job - twenty years of it, Istio at IBM through to Solo, and a straight answer to the question her own reports keep asking her, which is whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying you.</p>

<p>You can watch t<a href="https://youtu.be/VFCzTdXoDR0" rel="nofollow noopener">he video version of this episode as well</a>, if you prefer that kind of thing.</p>

<p>Mentions:</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lin-sun-a9b7a81/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lin Sun on LinkedIn</a>, where she says she is most active.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://solo.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Solo.io</a> - the book “AI Agents on Kubernetes” is a free download from the homepage, and is being refreshed for Salt Lake City.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://aaif.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">The Agentic AI Foundation</a> and its five projects: Model Context Protocol, goose, AGENTS.md, agentgateway, and the agent-to-agent protocol.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://github.com/agent-substrate/substrate" rel="nofollow noopener">Agent Substrate</a>, the Google project that rethinks how agents get scheduled.</li>
</ul>

<p>Special Guest: Lin Sun.<br>
Header photo <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/143247548@N03/55169871701/in/album-72177720332674037" rel="nofollow noopener">from the CNCF</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Lin Sun.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Lin Sun is Head of Open Source at Solo.io, a recent KubeCon + CloudNativeCon program co-chair, and an emeritus member of the CNCF Technical Oversight Committee. Whitney and Coté start with the keynote she gave in Amsterdam, where she flew a drone over 13,000 people so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged the audience was - it broke twice on stage, and Whitney, who was in the room, remembers nothing else from that day. Lin’s account of why it worked anyway is a checklist: a wow factor, something the audience does every day so they can relate to it, real engagement, and a planted surprise. From there they get into the part of co-chairing nobody sees, where three thousand submissions become about two hundred talks, how the AI-written ones get spotted, and why the CNCF cannot simply run a detector over the pile. The rest is open source as a job - twenty years of it, Istio at IBM through to Solo, and a straight answer to the question her own reports keep asking her, which is whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying you.</p>

<p>You can watch t<a href="https://youtu.be/VFCzTdXoDR0" rel="nofollow noopener">he video version of this episode as well</a>, if you prefer that kind of thing.</p>

<p>Mentions:</p>

<ul>
<li>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lin-sun-a9b7a81/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lin Sun on LinkedIn</a>, where she says she is most active.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://solo.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Solo.io</a> - the book “AI Agents on Kubernetes” is a free download from the homepage, and is being refreshed for Salt Lake City.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://aaif.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">The Agentic AI Foundation</a> and its five projects: Model Context Protocol, goose, AGENTS.md, agentgateway, and the agent-to-agent protocol.</li>
<li>  <a href="https://github.com/agent-substrate/substrate" rel="nofollow noopener">Agent Substrate</a>, the Google project that rethinks how agents get scheduled.</li>
</ul>

<p>Special Guest: Lin Sun.<br>
Header photo <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/143247548@N03/55169871701/in/album-72177720332674037" rel="nofollow noopener">from the CNCF</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Lin Sun.</p>]]>
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