app01 Wed, 04 Nov 2026 08:40:38 +0000 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Software Defined Interviews - Episodes Tagged with “Kubernetes” https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/tags/kubernetes Wed, 30 Sep 2026 07:00:00 +0200 Deep discussions about technology, enterprise IT, and the like en-us episodic Deep discussions about technology, enterprise IT, and the like Software Defined Talk Deep discussions about technology, enterprise IT, and the like yes Software Defined Talk softwaredefinedinterviews@cote.wtf Episode 128: Animated Bedtime Stories, Telling Dummies What to Do, and Why Docker Lost, with Viktor Farcic https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/128 b9411b79-5845-4b02-b993-be870eaeae8b Wed, 30 Sep 2026 07:00:00 +0200 Software Defined Talk 128 Animated Bedtime Stories, Telling Dummies What to Do, and Why Docker Lost, with Viktor Farcic full Software Defined Talk Viktor Farcic makes animated bedtime stories about tech history because he decided people should not have to look at his face. He also runs 20 to 50 agents at once, has them argue with each other, and reviews their work off a private YouTube channel in the morning. Plus: why AI is cheap next to a salary, why he expects a bloodbath, and what actually went wrong at Docker. 1:02:20 yes <p>Viktor Farcic is a developer advocate at Upbound, runs the DevOps &amp; AI Toolkit YouTube channel, and was last on the show back in episode 89. Whitney and Coté start with the animated bedtime stories he has started making - tech history told as fairy tales with a nightmare at the end - which he began after catching sight of himself in a mirror and deciding people should not have to watch that. From there it is what his working day looks like now, with 20 to 50 agents running at once, a coder and a tester and a reviewer who are not allowed to do each other's jobs and argue until they agree, and a private YouTube channel where the agents post recorded tests for him to review on his phone in the morning. The last stretch is money: why he thinks AI is cheap next to what a person costs, why he expects a bloodbath as industries fail to adapt, and a walk through Docker, Chef, Puppet, Ansible and HashiCorp on whether an open source company can ever turn a profit on its own.</p> <p><a href="https://youtu.be/bsART7GgK_0" rel="nofollow noopener">Check it out in YouTube</a>, if you prefer that kind of thing.</p> <p>Mentions:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@devopstoolkit" rel="nofollow noopener">DevOps &amp; AI Toolkit on YouTube</a>, where the bedtime stories live.</li> <li><a href="https://devopstoolkit.live" rel="nofollow noopener">devopstoolkit.live</a> - the blog and video archive.</li> <li><a href="https://devopstoolkit.ai" rel="nofollow noopener">devopstoolkit.ai</a> - the product.</li> <li><a href="https://github.com/vfarcic" rel="nofollow noopener">Viktor on GitHub</a>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.devopsparadox.com" rel="nofollow noopener">DevOps Paradox</a>, his other podcast.</li> <li><a href="https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/89" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 89</a>, his first time on the show.</li> </ul> <p>Special Guest: Viktor Farcic.</p> <p><em>Show notes written by AI with a human's lazy-look.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Viktor Farcic.</p> Viktor Farcic, Upbound, Crossplane, DevOps Toolkit, DevOps & AI Toolkit, DevOps Paradox, AI agents, agentic AI, agent swarm, multi-agent, sub-agents, Claude, OpenCode, Greptile, Higgsfield, AI video generation, generated animation, bedtime stories, tech history, YouTube, content creation, developer advocacy, AI coding, specifications, spec-driven development, agent instructions, code review, automated testing, overnight agents, token cost, AI economics, cost of labour, job displacement, technical management, Docker, Solomon Hykes, Docker Swarm, Kubernetes, open source business model, Red Hat, HashiCorp, IBM, Ansible, Chef, Puppet, Pulumi, CFEngine, Terraform, configuration management, infrastructure as code, CNCF, Solo.io, acquisitions, IPO, FFmpeg, Descript, Anki Viktor Farcic is a developer advocate at Upbound, runs the DevOps & AI Toolkit YouTube channel, and was last on the show back in episode 89. Whitney and Coté start with the animated bedtime stories he has started making - tech history told as fairy tales with a nightmare at the end - which he began after catching sight of himself in a mirror and deciding people should not have to watch that. From there it is what his working day looks like now, with 20 to 50 agents running at once, a coder and a tester and a reviewer who are not allowed to do each other's jobs and argue until they agree, and a private YouTube channel where the agents post recorded tests for him to review on his phone in the morning. The last stretch is money: why he thinks AI is cheap next to what a person costs, why he expects a bloodbath as industries fail to adapt, and a walk through Docker, Chef, Puppet, Ansible and HashiCorp on whether an open source company can ever turn a profit on its own.

Check it out in YouTube, if you prefer that kind of thing.

Mentions:

Special Guest: Viktor Farcic.

Show notes written by AI with a human's lazy-look.

Special Guest: Viktor Farcic.

]]> Viktor Farcic is a developer advocate at Upbound, runs the DevOps & AI Toolkit YouTube channel, and was last on the show back in episode 89. Whitney and Coté start with the animated bedtime stories he has started making - tech history told as fairy tales with a nightmare at the end - which he began after catching sight of himself in a mirror and deciding people should not have to watch that. From there it is what his working day looks like now, with 20 to 50 agents running at once, a coder and a tester and a reviewer who are not allowed to do each other's jobs and argue until they agree, and a private YouTube channel where the agents post recorded tests for him to review on his phone in the morning. The last stretch is money: why he thinks AI is cheap next to what a person costs, why he expects a bloodbath as industries fail to adapt, and a walk through Docker, Chef, Puppet, Ansible and HashiCorp on whether an open source company can ever turn a profit on its own.

Check it out in YouTube, if you prefer that kind of thing.

Mentions:

Special Guest: Viktor Farcic.

Show notes written by AI with a human's lazy-look.

Special Guest: Viktor Farcic.

]]> Episode 127: The KubeCon Drone Demo, CFP Reviewing at Scale, and the Agentic AI Foundation, with Lin Sun https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/127 5b388ca4-cfe8-4e49-ae42-ea022b5b1a82 Sun, 20 Sep 2026 11:15:00 +0200 Software Defined Talk 127 The KubeCon Drone Demo, CFP Reviewing at Scale, and the Agentic AI Foundation, with Lin Sun full Software Defined Talk Lin Sun flew a drone over 13,000 people in a KubeCon keynote so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged they were. It broke twice on stage, and she's thinking of doing it again. Why that still worked, what a KubeCon program co-chair actually does with three thousand submissions, how they spot AI-written CFPs, and whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying your salary. 1:04:34 yes <p>Lin Sun is Head of Open Source at Solo.io, a recent KubeCon + CloudNativeCon program co-chair, and an emeritus member of the CNCF Technical Oversight Committee. Whitney and Coté start with the keynote she gave in Amsterdam, where she flew a drone over 13,000 people so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged the audience was - it broke twice on stage, and Whitney, who was in the room, remembers nothing else from that day. Lin’s account of why it worked anyway is a checklist: a wow factor, something the audience does every day so they can relate to it, real engagement, and a planted surprise. From there they get into the part of co-chairing nobody sees, where three thousand submissions become about two hundred talks, how the AI-written ones get spotted, and why the CNCF cannot simply run a detector over the pile. The rest is open source as a job - twenty years of it, Istio at IBM through to Solo, and a straight answer to the question her own reports keep asking her, which is whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying you.</p> <p>You can watch t<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyTXHkGfClI" rel="nofollow noopener">he video version of this episode as well</a>, if you prefer that kind of thing.</p> <p>Mentions:</p> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lin-sun-a9b7a81/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lin Sun on LinkedIn</a>, where she says she is most active.</li> <li> <a href="https://solo.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Solo.io</a> - the book “AI Agents on Kubernetes” is a free download from the homepage, and is being refreshed for Salt Lake City.</li> <li> <a href="https://aaif.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">The Agentic AI Foundation</a> and its five projects: Model Context Protocol, goose, AGENTS.md, agentgateway, and the agent-to-agent protocol.</li> <li> <a href="https://github.com/agent-substrate/substrate" rel="nofollow noopener">Agent Substrate</a>, the Google project that rethinks how agents get scheduled.</li> </ul> <p>Special Guest: Lin Sun.<br> Header photo <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/143247548@N03/55169871701/in/album-72177720332674037" rel="nofollow noopener">from the CNCF</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Lin Sun.</p> Lin Sun, Solo.io, KubeCon, CloudNativeCon, CNCF, Cloud Native Computing Foundation, Technical Oversight Committee, TOC, program co-chair, conference program committee, call for papers, CFP review, AI slop, keynote, live demo, drone demo, KubeCon Amsterdam, KubeCon Salt Lake City, KubeCon Barcelona, Istio, service mesh, IBM, open source strategy, open source business model, Red Hat, maintainers, kagent, agentgateway, kgateway, Agentic AI Foundation, AAIF, Model Context Protocol, MCP, Goose, AGENTS.md, agent-to-agent protocol, A2A, Agent Substrate, AI agents, inference, inference gateway, model serving, Kubernetes, GPUs, CoreWeave, Qwen, AI Agents on Kubernetes, public speaking, slides, conference talks, sandbox, incubation, graduation Lin Sun is Head of Open Source at Solo.io, a recent KubeCon + CloudNativeCon program co-chair, and an emeritus member of the CNCF Technical Oversight Committee. Whitney and Coté start with the keynote she gave in Amsterdam, where she flew a drone over 13,000 people so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged the audience was - it broke twice on stage, and Whitney, who was in the room, remembers nothing else from that day. Lin’s account of why it worked anyway is a checklist: a wow factor, something the audience does every day so they can relate to it, real engagement, and a planted surprise. From there they get into the part of co-chairing nobody sees, where three thousand submissions become about two hundred talks, how the AI-written ones get spotted, and why the CNCF cannot simply run a detector over the pile. The rest is open source as a job - twenty years of it, Istio at IBM through to Solo, and a straight answer to the question her own reports keep asking her, which is whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying you.

You can watch the video version of this episode as well, if you prefer that kind of thing.

Mentions:

  • Lin Sun on LinkedIn, where she says she is most active.
  • Solo.io - the book “AI Agents on Kubernetes” is a free download from the homepage, and is being refreshed for Salt Lake City.
  • The Agentic AI Foundation and its five projects: Model Context Protocol, goose, AGENTS.md, agentgateway, and the agent-to-agent protocol.
  • Agent Substrate, the Google project that rethinks how agents get scheduled.

Special Guest: Lin Sun.
Header photo from the CNCF.

Special Guest: Lin Sun.

]]> Lin Sun is Head of Open Source at Solo.io, a recent KubeCon + CloudNativeCon program co-chair, and an emeritus member of the CNCF Technical Oversight Committee. Whitney and Coté start with the keynote she gave in Amsterdam, where she flew a drone over 13,000 people so an AI model on her laptop could score how engaged the audience was - it broke twice on stage, and Whitney, who was in the room, remembers nothing else from that day. Lin’s account of why it worked anyway is a checklist: a wow factor, something the audience does every day so they can relate to it, real engagement, and a planted surprise. From there they get into the part of co-chairing nobody sees, where three thousand submissions become about two hundred talks, how the AI-written ones get spotted, and why the CNCF cannot simply run a detector over the pile. The rest is open source as a job - twenty years of it, Istio at IBM through to Solo, and a straight answer to the question her own reports keep asking her, which is whether working on open source makes you less strategic to the company paying you.

You can watch the video version of this episode as well, if you prefer that kind of thing.

Mentions:

  • Lin Sun on LinkedIn, where she says she is most active.
  • Solo.io - the book “AI Agents on Kubernetes” is a free download from the homepage, and is being refreshed for Salt Lake City.
  • The Agentic AI Foundation and its five projects: Model Context Protocol, goose, AGENTS.md, agentgateway, and the agent-to-agent protocol.
  • Agent Substrate, the Google project that rethinks how agents get scheduled.

Special Guest: Lin Sun.
Header photo from the CNCF.

Special Guest: Lin Sun.

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